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War, what is it good for?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/iran-paper-tiger-finally-exposed-050000547.html

I don't suppose you will give this article much credit, but I believe it. Until the so called peace loving muslims rise up against those amongst themselves that cause this violence, I wouldn't trust a single one, especially those in this country, including those that serve in our government. Especially those that serve in our government.
You're right, I don't give much cred to the article, because logistically, a "military command and control centre" would have at least some military vehicles parked outside, or in a motorpool. It would be easy for any government to see such vehicles parked outside or patrolling the perimeter of a consulate/embassy (even on google maps) and prove that it's not being used as an diplomatic mission. And that's all the idf would need to justify the strike. But notice how they didn't provide a shred of evidence?

Plus a foreign mission would be a dumb place to have a military control centre, since foreign dignitaries could pop in at any time.
 
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Luxman

#TRE45ON
Iranian attack spurs bipartisan calls for swift U.S. action - Apr 13, 2024
https://www.axios.com/2024/04/13/iran-israel-attack-bipartisan-congress-response

Scoop: Biden told Bibi U.S. won't support an Israeli counterattack on Iran - Apr 14, 2024
https://www.axios.com/2024/04/14/biden-netanyahu-iran-israel-us-wont-support
Let's hope that's the extent of the tit-for-tat on this one. As the article says, "It's the first attack Iran has launched from its soil against Israel", so it's hopeful that there won't be much more if they aren't provoked.
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
 
Even Joe has had enough. Finally showing some backbone.

Biden says US won’t supply weapons for Israel to attack Rafah, in warning to ally
https://apnews.com/article/israel-weapons-shipment-us-eed365ebef0477ba74bf9848cacae4f4

President Joe Biden said that he would not supply offensive weapons that Israel could use to launch an all-out assault on Rafah — the last major Hamas stronghold in Gaza — over concern for the well-being of the more than 1 million civilians sheltering there.
 
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Two far-right Israeli ministers threaten to topple the government if it accepts Biden peace plan
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/02/middleeast/israeli-ministers-biden-ceasefire-plan-intl/index.html

Two far-right Israeli ministers have threatened to resign and bring down the governing coalition of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu if he accepts a peace proposal laid out by US President Joe Biden.
Biden unveiled on Friday what he said was a three-phase Israeli proposal to end the conflict in Gaza that would pair a release of hostages with a “full and complete ceasefire.”
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But the Israeli government’s two most prominent far-right members, Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir, made it explicitly clear they reject an immediate ceasefire. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has also signaled he is not ready either, casting doubt over Biden’s proposal.
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If the prime minister implements the reckless deal under the conditions published today, which mean the end of the war and the giving up on the elimination of Hamas, Otzma Yehudit will dissolve the government,” he said, referring to the far-right party he leads and which helps prop up Netanyahu’s majority in parliament.

So... if Israel won't accept a Peace plan proposed by the US... who will they listen to?
 
An Israeli operation rescues four hostages and kills scores of Palestinians.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...aza-unfolded/ar-BB1nST0e?ocid=nl_article_link
Four hostages have been rescued in an Israeli operation that took weeks of planning – but killed scores of Palestinians in Gaza and left behind a trail of devastation.
At least 274 Palestinians were killed in the operation and hundreds injured
Seems consistent with the "exchange rate" of Palestinian lives to israeli lives.
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
It is a war. And in wars, people die. The muslim inhabitants of Gaza, as those of the West Bank, are supporting Hamas, and they should not have started this war. They reap what they sowed.
 

Luxman

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Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
Sadly, it is like that... Cenk has lost a ton of respect - in my eyes - for his biys for a group of people who love to play the victim card, but support either/or and the PA, both very bad participants in the region.
 

Steve-FreeOnes

FO Admin / "rude, unnecessary attitude" (he/they)
Staff member
If ever I want to make myself deliberately angry, I just read this topic due to the amazingly high standards of absolute bullshit being spoken within it. Even by the standards of this sub-forum, it's quite remarkable.

Anyway, please continue!
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
New Rule: Gender Apartheid | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - May 31, 2024
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
Stop linking to stuff without discussing it.

On a sidenote, I hope Bill Maher dies soon.
You should hope ahole Trump dies, because ahole Trump wants to rule America like ahole Putin rules Russian, and being openly gay or LGBTQ+ in Russia is punishable by imprisonment or death. Bill Maher gives us unbiased truth, and he's right that if ahole Trump somehow wins the 2024 election, it will be because the left has gone too far to the left.
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
What has Bill Maher said about the Gaza war that you disagree with?
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
You should hope ahole Trump dies, because ahole Trump wants to rule America like ahole Putin rules Russian, and being openly gay or LGBTQ+ in Russia is punishable by imprisonment or death.
@Steve-FreeOnes does not reside in the US. I doubt he cares how Trump rules America. Well … as long as we don’t make any new threads on the liar.

Bill Maher gives us unbiased truth, and he's right that if ahole Trump somehow wins the 2024 election, it will be because the left has gone too far to the left.
Biden gets jabbed for not being progressive enough. Saying that Bill Maher (a paid opiner) is unbiased is funny. I may agree with John Oliver, but I know he has a bias. Most, if not all, hosts have a bias.
 
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